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Guess the Game: Sonic 3 or Sonic 4?

So, I don’t know if you all have heard, but the Sonic community is totally horrible, you guys. But there was a magical time when the community was different! Was better! A time when the community didn’t get at each other’s throats and hate each other and be full of pointless critiques!

That time, my friends, was never. If you’ve been around long enough, you’ve seen the stupidity of the Sonic scene since day 1. Therefore, I’m challenging you all to a game. I have pulled five random forum posts and posted them below. Your job? Determine whether each of these posts were made about Sonic 4, or its predecessor, Sonic 3. Please note that I’ve edited out information that would obviously give the game in question away, but they are otherwise intact. We’ll post the solution tomorrow.

1. Like I said a few days back, totally revamping the game would be stupid. There are a lot of people who like the existing format. And, like I said, additions would be better than starting over.  Ideas for new power-ups would be nice (Like something to make you grow larger and smaller, like the lasers in the final round of Sonic CD).  Multi-Player, if done better than it was in Sonic 2, would be a great idea.  I does have it too. But mine, and most people’s, concern is length.  They need to be longer and harder.  Have a difficulty meter in the options menu.

2.It’s an OK addition to the Sonic library, but as I’ve stated before,

1. There is TONS of slowdown…and from a game that touts SPEED SPEED SPEED!!!

2. The [game] feature is sloppy at best. It’s horribly implemented, theycould have done a much better job.

3. The songs are REALLY corny.

4. It’s just Sonic, plays almost IDENTICAL to Sonic 1&2. At least with Mario sequels, there’s lots more to do than just running, jumping and squashing.

3.The damn game shouldn’t even be made! Kill Sonic! That’s the spirt! Okay, I am a Sonic fan, but the games are nearly all the same. I hate Mario, but they were all popular and they were all different. In no way can you compare Super Mario World with Super Mario Bros. But you can easily say Sonic CD is just a little better than the original Sonic adventure.
1.Tell me, who wants a dumb tree level again?
2. Who wants the same item boxes as part one to still be around(sneakers,super ring, etc.)
3. Who wants to have a sign that whirls at the end of the level again?
4. Who wants another Robotic Sonic clone?
5. Who wants more of that zone and act crap?
The thing is, Sonic is a lot like Ross Perot. He was great at first, you can only go on so long with the same act.

4.And as for [game] being a rehash of [prior game],you can forget it, [prior game] was made for a reson, sonics levels and enemys are now mucho megabytes. I havn’t seen [game] anywhere so I’m just saying what i think should be in it. And Is say keep the bonus rounds.

5.If all of the people that we now that agree with our idea’s send letters we would be sending letters from all accross the country and then they would have to listen.  Send your thoughts and ideas about what [game] should be and I will make a list.  Hope to hear from you soon.

And on a final note, know that the issues surrounding Carnival Night Zone have been around since…a day after Sonic 3 was released.

-jscSubj:  Carnival Zone
Date:  94-02-03 18:01:03 EST
From:  SegaTails

Help! I’m stuck at a part here where there’s this big red cylinder with
white triangles on it. There’s some thin that looks like this:
X
X
X
X     That keeps me locked in. Please help me, I’m very fustrated!

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    CARNIVAL NIGHT ZONE FTW

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      OH i remember this all to well @_@ lol

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    Obviously Sonic 3.
    But then again, it does mention the music being corny..

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    1. Sonic 3
    2. Sonic 3
    3. Sonic 3
    4. Sonic 3
    5. Sonic 4

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    Disregard that post. It’s Sonic 3.

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    And then came Sonic & Knuckles and it was awesome …

    Whoa, wait a minute …

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    Carnival Night Zone… I fucking hate you, back when I was a kid I just jumped through the whole barrel thing instead of pressing up and down, and just before I got the necessary height, TAILS WOULD SCREW ME OVER.

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      Amen. I couldn’t solve it when I had my Genesis–I had to wait until Sonic Mega Collection to get it. I didn’t get SMC until 2006 or so, and I had Sonic 3 around 1999-2000. I was very young then.

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    Cleveland: “Oh man, that’s a hard one.”

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    1 Sonic 3
    2 Sonic 4
    3 Sonic 3
    4-5 Sonic 4

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    I’m almost sure that all of this is for Sonic 3.

    lol @ Ross Perot. That probably should have been edited out as well. olololo

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    1. Sonic 3
    2. Sonic 3
    3. Sonic 4
    4. Sonic 4
    5. Sonic 4

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    I honestly can’t imagine what was in the water back then. Not like Sonic 3? Inconceivable.

    “[it] plays almost IDENTICAL to Sonic 1&2”

    …like that’s a bad thing.

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    i believe all of them are Sonic 3 except #2 and #5, those are obviously Sonic 4, and i agree 100% it’s not that Sonic games lost their charm, it’s the fans who keep on nagging, they just lost their passion as they grew up…

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    I think that the ones that have a comparison to Mario are from sonic 3 discussion. Back when sonic 3 came out, his main competition was Mario, during sonic 4 most didn’t consider sonic “real” competition to Mario.

    Also, lol the drum

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    I’m going to go out on a limb and say that ALL the posts shown relate to Sonic 3 and that this was a trick question!

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    They’re all sonic 3 😛 Very clever as you’re making a point the community is just as retarded as it was years ago, who knows maybe we’ll be calling sonic 4 genius in 7 or so years time ^^

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      Sonic 4? Genius? I just don’t see that happening.

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        Ever watch “Idiocricy?”

        It *will* happen.

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      That’s not the point that I see being made at all, if they are all Sonic 3 related. Of course back when Sonic 3 came out there were complaints about some of it’s features. Personally I never liked the Time Trial stuff, or really some of the bonus stages. It was because SEGA was putting out masterpiece after masterpiece and expectations were higher for each game. When they decided to use the name Sonic 4 they only brought these expectations back into the minds of the fans and when they released a downloadable pile of garbage, it got torn to shreds. Sonic 4 will never be genius or average or okay or even crap but rather will go down as the biggest insult to the Sonic fan community to ever disgrace a video screen, because that’s what it is.

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    All of them are Sonic 3?

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    Sonic 3 alone, was indeed a pretty shallow automated game compared to it’s predecessors. The great new features didn’t help the game being too short and didn’t feel epic as sonic 2.

    S3k together is a whole different story

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    This is all well and good, but… there’s a little bit of scale discrepancy going on here.

    Seriously, the worst offense that Sonic 3 made was a -single- part of one level that was a little tough to figure out. (Carnival Night’s barrel, if it’s not obvious) The other complaints are certainly not in the majority such as it is with Sonic 4, and are generally as comparisons to the Mario series. (On that note, Mario Galaxy 2 is certainly a TON different from Mario 64, right? 😛 ) On the other hand, the complaints about Sonic 4 that were made AFTER it came out were in regard to it being quite literally broken.

    I mean, ha ha, very funny!

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    It’s:
    1 s4

    2 s3

    3 s3

    4 s4

    5 s4
    I’ve been in those discussions (or at least it “looks” like “them”), so I should know.

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    Cool idea, Scarred Sun, these were all fun to read.  I assume they’re all Sonic 3, as the first three draw their comparisons with Sonic 2 and Sonic CD and I’m getting a very strong 1994 vibe from the other two.  They certainly wouldn’t look out of place in a Sonic 4 forum, though, so point well made!  I’m going to find some more of these and randomly drop them into Sonic 4 Episode 2 discussions…

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    Yeah, I also believe these are all Sonic 3. I also remember reading old UseNet archives years ago about people complaining how much they hated the just-released Sonic CD.

    But put this in some context. Not only were these people significantly older than us (more likely to be cynical, not going to have the early memories of playing Sonic that most of us do), but the platformer genre was just as pervasive and overdone then as the FPS is now. I remember tons of magazines and whatnot at the time rolling their eyes every time “yet another” 2D platformer was released. That’s partially to blame for all this stuff about the Genesis series being rather samey.

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    I want to say It’s sonic 3, but I’m probably wrong.

    I’ve always liked all the main sonic games, I never had a problem when I was playing Sonic 4. Music was pretty retro, gameplay was alright (spoilers: hold the d-pad in the direction you’re going, I always did on the genesis games) and overall held up to me as a fine game. I really could see why people would complain about it, but I can’t change people’s opinions no matter how hard people argue about it to me.

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    Fucken Barrel Of Doom. It took me years to figure it out. In fact it was shortly after the Sonic Paradox Team came out with Sonic Shorts Volume 6. >>

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    MARIO IS BETTER THEN MODERN SONIC! But Classic Sonic and Mario are equal..

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    I never knew the Sonic community posted this kind of stuff. Complaining about a sign spinning? Really? Its obviously sonic 3 but still… I wish it wasnt. Other than that Post 3 is obviously someone who doesnt ‘get’ Sonic games. Tree Level’s a classic, man.

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    1. 3
    2. 4
    3. 4
    4. 3
    5. 3

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    Hm. My guess?
    1. 3
    2. 3
    3. 4
    4. 4
    5. 3

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    They’re all Sonic 3

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    i seriously though all of those were sonic and knuckles…although i disagree with them, of course

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